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 Post subject: HBS
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:25 pm 
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Hi

So I'm really confused...there is a 3 mile radius rule.

300 applicant have been given banding.

Some bands A are not in the 3 mile catchment so can they get a space? If you are in band c and in the 3 mile catchment will you be given preference?

If you are a pupil premium student and not in the catchment will you be given a space?

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 Post subject: Re: HBS
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:44 pm 
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Sa4ia wrote:
Hi

So I'm really confused...there is a 3 mile radius rule.

300 applicant have been given banding.

Some bands A are not in the 3 mile catchment so can they get a space? If you are in band c and in the 3 mile catchment will you be given preference?

If you are a pupil premium student and not in the catchment will you be given a space?

I


Assuming that the school wishes to comply with the Admissions Code, places will be allocated to qualified candidates, in strict order of the oversubscription criteria. Or, if there are fewer qualified candidates than there are spaces available, they will all get in.

So applicants will be ranked with those qualified under the first criterion first and so on.

If not all places are filled by girls in the first category, places will be offered to girls in the second category. Still places remaining? Third category. And so on. If the places run out partway through a category, those within that category will be ranked however the policy says it will rank them and places offered from the top of the category until all the places are gone.

Again assuming that the school wishes to comply with the Admissions Code, the waiting list will be held in oversubscription criteria order, with those making late applications slotted in where they rank according to those criteria.

Hope that helps :)

P.S. however self important a school may be, if it's a state school, it has no choice but to comply with the Admissions Code.

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 Post subject: Re: HBS
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:54 pm 
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This the policy they have to follow :

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1. A ‘looked after’ child or a child who was ‘previously looked after’ but immediately after being looked after
became subject to an adoption, child arrangements, or special guardianship order, providing that the
candidate is capable of following The Henrietta Barnett School education. A 'looked after child' is a child
who is (a) in the care of a local authority, or (b) being provided with accommodation by a local authority in
the exercise of their social services functions (see the definition in Section 22(1) of the Children Act 1989)
at the time of making an application to a school. In this category, a candidate will be considered to have
the necessary capability if they sit the second round test and are ranked in the top 300 applicants in the
tests. Please provide written evidence if you are responsible for a looked after child. This evidence
must be received by Wednesday 17th July 2019.

Looked after child wherever they live if they make the top 300

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2. Candidates who are eligible for Pupil Premium funding, providing that the candidate is capable of following
The Henrietta Barnett School education. In this category, a candidate will be considered to have the
necessary capability if they sit the second round test and are ranked in the top 300 applicants in the tests.
Candidates will be considered for a Pupil Premium place only if they provide written confirmation, directly
from their current school, of their Pupil Premium eligibility. This evidence must be received by
Wednesday 17
th July 2019. Please note that the School will not contact the current school directly for this
information – the candidate is responsible for ensuring that their current school provides it.


Pupil Premium candidate wherever they live so long as they make the top 300

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3. Candidates who live within 3 miles of the school at the point when they submit their application to the
Local Authority (statutory walking distance as defined in section 444 of the Education Act 1996), providing
that the candidate is capable of following The Henrietta Barnett School education. In this category, a
candidate will be considered to have the necessary capability if they sit the second round test and are
ranked in the top 300 applicants from Round One.
Distance from the School will be calculated as measured by the London Borough of Barnet. Distance is
measured in a straight line between the address point for the child’s home, supplied by Ordnance Survey,
to the school’s main entrance on Central Square using the Council’s computerised geographical
information system. Where a child lives normally during the school week with more than one parent at
different addresses, the permanent home address for the purposes of school admissions will be the one
where the child spends the majority of school nights Monday – Friday.



3 mile radius - top 300 - they haven't said what happens if there are more candidates in the 3 mile radius than there are places - presume they will do this:

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Where candidates are equally ranked, geographical proximity to the School as measured by the London Borough of
Barnet (as described above) will be used to decide the final placings.


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4. All remaining candidates in rank score order.



Remaining places in score order regardless of where they live


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 Post subject: Re: HBS
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:28 pm 
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Hermanmunster, that’s a really helpful way to present the information.

For those who are thinking further ahead, note that for September 2021 entry, HBS is planning to expand from four classes of 25 (yep, looks like they finally counted those pesky Year 7s and found they needed 100 chairs, not 93), to five classes of 30. That’s a 50% increase in Year 7 places.

And

“As part of these proposals we intend to invite any pupil premium candidate who is ranked in the top 500 of our Round One Entrance Test, to sit the Round Two Test and those who rank in the top 350 will be offered a place at the School.”
https://www.hbschool.org.uk/media/news/ ... -Selective

Definitely a message worth spreading.

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 Post subject: Re: HBS
PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:22 pm 
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Stroller wrote:
Hermanmunster, that’s a really helpful way to present the information.

For those who are thinking further ahead, note that for September 2021 entry, HBS is planning to expand from four classes of 25 (yep, looks like they finally counted those pesky Year 7s and found they needed 100 chairs, not 93), to five classes of 30. That’s a 50% increase in Year 7 places.

And

“As part of these proposals we intend to invite any pupil premium candidate who is ranked in the top 500 of our Round One Entrance Test, to sit the Round Two Test and those who rank in the top 350 will be offered a place at the School.”
https://www.hbschool.org.uk/media/news/ ... -Selective

Definitely a message worth spreading.


Not wishing to be nit-picky (oh, go on then...), but hopefully they will actually amend that bit to add something along the lines of, should they decide to place the school on the CAF submitted to their LA, in such a position that it represents their highest effective preference. Because verily, I can just see people saying, but HBS didn't say we had to do anything like that. They just said that they would give her a place :shock:.

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 Post subject: Re: HBS
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:00 am 
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Stroller wrote:
For those who are thinking further ahead, note that for September 2021 entry, HBS is planning to expand from four classes of 25 (yep, looks like they finally counted those pesky Year 7s and found they needed 100 chairs, not 93), to five classes of 30. That’s a 50% increase in Year 7 places.

And

“As part of these proposals we intend to invite any pupil premium candidate who is ranked in the top 500 of our Round One Entrance Test, to sit the Round Two Test and those who rank in the top 350 will be offered a place at the School.”
https://www.hbschool.org.uk/media/news/ ... -Selective

Definitely a message worth spreading.


Rather than "planning" to expand, it would be more accurate to say "praying that they will receive the funding" to expand.

Last year, the successful SSEF applicants had been announced by late autumn. This year, there seems to be an inexplicable delay in the Whitehall decision making process! :?


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 Post subject: Re: HBS
PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:22 am 
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Presume Whitehall don't know what the education budget priorities will look like. GS may not get a look in


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 Post subject: Re: HBS
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:28 pm 
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hermanmunster wrote:
GS may not get a look in


Especially given that the SSEF was a Theresa May policy


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 Post subject: Re: HBS
PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:54 am 
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Thank you everyone for the detailed reply.


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 Post subject: Re: HBS
PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:40 pm 
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https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/tr ... bc37134659

If anyone can please shed some light regarding this new document.
Thanks


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