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 Post subject: Re: Robotics
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 7:19 pm 
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The high salaries you see quoted for Cambridge engineering degrees is because quite a few students are lured away from engineering by finance companies, and they get almost double the salaries of those that stay as engineers.
Job Hunting, My Daughter got her fair share of rejections so not sure if Cambridge makes much difference, however it is a lot of hard work and grades are marked on a bell curve so effectively you're competing with other students for the degree. There are some courses at Cambridge that pretty much no one fails at, but Engineering isn't one of those.

Regarding Robotics.
1st 2 years are general and compared to some of her friends who did a single engineering discipline she covered pretty much the same ground as they did, but did a load of other areas on top of it. This though has helped with her present job which covers a lot of areas in engineering.
the last 2 (IIA & IIB) years you specialise (or you can stay general) and choose the modules you want to study. Its here she chose a robotics module, and computer vision etc. but you can pretty much pick and mix what you study within certain limitations. This is an example of some of the modules
http://teaching.eng.cam.ac.uk/download/file/4403


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 Post subject: Re: Robotics
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:23 pm 
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Thank you all for the information. Interesting what you say about going into finance. I see finance and engineering as worlds apart.

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 Post subject: Re: Robotics
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:28 pm 
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salsa wrote:
Thank you all for the information. Interesting what you say about going into finance. I see finance and engineering as worlds apart.

Salsa


You’d think, but both are numerate subjects needing analytical ability. Plus management and economics typically form part of an engineering degree. At some point engineers usually have to deal with budgets, finance, payback, economic feasibility etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Robotics
PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2019 7:50 am 
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salsa wrote:
Thank you all for the information. Interesting what you say about going into finance. I see finance and engineering as worlds apart.

Salsa


Salsa, there are apparently even those who see a medical degree as a route into finance (as opposed to, aiming to move into a 'non-messy' speciality in private practice as quickly as possible) - even more bizarre. And in terms of, medical school places and the needs of the NHS being closely linked, just as, if not more so, frustratiing as much needed engineers not actually practising as engineers.

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 Post subject: Re: Robotics
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:58 am 
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Hi all,

I'm trying to book open days for September. With regards to Cambridge, do I need to book individual colleges? This site seems to suggest so?

https://www.opendays.com/calendar/?month=Sep&year=2019

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Salsa


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 Post subject: Re: Robotics
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:35 pm 
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Is your DS interested in that particular college? The general Year 12 open days are in early July - you still have to register in advance, but can plan to look at more colleges. There are also Department open days.

https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/events/cambridge-open-days

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 Post subject: Re: Robotics
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:45 pm 
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No. He has no preference at the moment. The July open day says partially booked. I was leaving non London universities for next year, but he was keen to have a look.

Also, we rather go at the weekend and avoid taking days off from work.

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 Post subject: Re: Robotics
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:02 pm 
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Just noticed this thread -

My recommendation would be to do an Undergraduate B.Sc Hons in a suitable Eng degree (Mech Eng say) and then take a separate 1 year Postgraduate Robotics M.Sc. There are several Universities that offer Robotics Postgraduate M.Sc (Birmingham, Bath, Kings College, Sheffield etc)
(Note: I would NOT recommend doing a 4th year Undergraduate Master (M.Eng), they are not great value for money as you pay £9000 but only get 8 months of teaching. Post Graduate Masters are much better value as you get a full 12 month course for typically less course fees!)


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 Post subject: Re: Robotics
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:19 pm 
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KenR wrote:
Just noticed this thread -

My recommendation would be to do an Undergraduate B.Sc Hons in a suitable Eng degree (Mech Eng say) and then take a separate 1 year Postgraduate Robotics M.Sc. There are several Universities that offer Robotics Postgraduate M.Sc (Birmingham, Bath, Kings College, Sheffield etc)
(Note: I would NOT recommend doing a 4th year Undergraduate Master (M.Eng), they are not great value for money as you pay £9000 but only get 8 months of teaching. Post Graduate Masters are much better value as you get a full 12 month course for typically less course fees!)


Making the wild assumption that DS1 will have applied in time and been accepted for the taught MSc he wants to do in the School of Biosciences at UoB, he will have £1366 left to live on from the £10 906 postgraduate loan, so he had better have been saving from his current minimum pay but full time job :lol:. Engineering MScs may be cheaper, of course.

ETA, just looked at the Robotics MSc - fees for Home / EU students, £9810.

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 Post subject: Re: Robotics
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:37 pm 
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Looking as some MSc in Chem Eng, imperial charge over £13k https://www.imperial.ac.uk/study/pg/che ... gineering/

And Bradford charge just over £8k. https://www.bradford.ac.uk/courses/pg/a ... gineering/

I suspect there’s not a lot in it between an extra year in an MEng and doing an MSc, but worth checking out your subject choice beforehand a checking a range of unis to see how they compare.

I suspect engineering is maybe a little different to other subjects as most will do a masters in some form in they intend to stay in engineering. A masters is needed to get chartered these days (or they have to jump through additional hurdles). Therefore maybe more demand and unis are charging more. Plus I suspect they cost more to run.


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