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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:34 am 
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Last few year, our school had send more students to Cambridge than Oxford. I think when final figures come, it would be same this year. Only couple of years back, iirc, Oxford used to have the edge.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:44 pm 
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Can’t help but think far too much is being read into this. I spent a lot of time looking at FOI requests last year, and some were quite revealing.
The big conclusion I came to was that if they liked you (in terms of ‘they wanted to teach you’ you got a place, if they didn’t like you, it mattered not what’s you came fro
Or how good you were.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:13 pm 
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It is not that they do not like you.

It is simply that they feel that other candidates are a better fit for the type of teaching that is being offered.

It is all about the other candidates and not so much about the individual candidate.

Last year or next year the same candidate could well get in if the competition is different.

It all depends on the competition each candidate faces the year they apply. DG


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:21 pm 
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Competition among the cohort is fine and may the better candidate wins the place. Looking at more than one school in the region, hope it is not the policy/direction change by Oxford. Next year's admissions would be keenly looked at. It would be shame if local grammars stop recommending Oxford to its students, based on this year's experience.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:17 am 
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It seems from the above that for some grammar schools only, and especially for Oxford, the success rate is markedly down.
This does seem to be the logical result of Oxford's latest policy for social engineering. To quote from the Guardian article referenced in the "Oxford Abandons Academic Excellence..." thread in the "University" section of this Forum:

Is this another squeezed middle?

If 25% of places are to be targeted at applicants from poorer areas - and in recent years, about 40% of places have gone to pupils from private schools - then that leaves 35% for everyone else.

That would be the remaining slice of places for all those state school pupils who do not live in the most deprived areas - which is to say, state-educated families in the middle.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:19 am 
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tiffinboys wrote:
Looks like applicants from Grammar schools have generally been harshly treated by Oxford this year. Lower offers from Cambridge too. Even the website of QE is unusually quiet this year, so far.


This year QE has bucked what seems to be the perceived trend.
https://www.qebarnet.co.uk/golden-generation-qe-boys-set-new-school-record-with-40-oxbridge-offers/

The pupils are is the squeezed middle. From SchoolDash:
    Eligible for free school meals (FSM): 1.9% (low)
    FSM pupils at 10 nearest schools†: 8.7%
    Local child deprivation rate: 15.4% (4km radius)


No doubt next year offers to QE students will go down.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:28 am 
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27 offers for QE at Cambridge and only 13 at Oxford.
Does that reflect the split of applications?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:32 am 
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DS tells me that, given the subjects that the boys want to study (read!), Cambridge is the preferred destination.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:53 am 
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Cambridge is the preferred destination at dd's school. It is perceived as less elitist and more inclusive than Oxford by dd's friendship group. I have no idea if they're correct.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:01 am 
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DD got an offer from Cambridge for geography A*AA unexpectedly, she was unsure about applying but decided to give it a go really not expecting success. She now feels she doesn’t want to go and feels dreadful.
In the context of the discussion about Oxford, her school is a north London independent, less academic than many round here, no Oxbridge offers last year. This year 3 Oxford 5 Cambridge out of roughly equal numbers of applicants. My guess would be it depends on the cohort, the subjects applied for and a dose of luck - how you perform on the day in tests and interviews.


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