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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:42 am 
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Is she actually a qualified doctor?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:13 am 
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She does, though, have a living to make. It's a pity she's chosen this way.


Why? From her point of view, I mean. Looks like a good game...

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:02 am 
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Moon unit wrote:
Is she actually a qualified doctor?


She qualified in Southampton in 1998 and is on the GMC register but not on the specialist or GP registers, she also does not have a current licence to practice so can't work as a doctor in the UK (to have a licence you have to be revalidated every 5 years etc etc )


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:49 am 
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My concern would be more about the fact that children now are brought up to be virtually attached to their mobiles and there are lots of issues that result from that not only from a social point of view but in terms of how it affects their concentration and ability to delay gratification.

Lots of the local schools have mobile phone bans in so far as they are to be switched off during the school day which I think is fine. Those that do allow mobiles invariably have children who are on it a lot more (and I would be concerned). Of course, kids will sneak phone time during toilet breaks but it still cuts down massively on their overall use.

Tbh, I think lots of parents are addicted too. I for one certainly check my mobile far too often. I am a bit surprised, though, at how many adults have their mobiles next to them in their bedrooms (not to mention when kids are allowed devices in bedrooms - seriously?! - leave them charging downstairs) and then complain they suffer from insomnia. Kids who are allowed devices in their bedrooms seem to read a lot less, obviously eBooks are OK as long as there is no other functionality or internet access on them.

There is a common misconception that we 'mustn't fear new technology' and that we have to learn to live with 'new technology' but I actually think we need to spend more time teaching and mobelling being detached from the mobiles, i.e. kids and parents should be able to leave the house for a few hours without taking their mobiles with them. There are also people who say that children need to learn to self-regulate though, to be honest, kids' brains are often not mature enough to do so until they're 15/16 or older and the mobiles and apps are designed to be addictive with no 'hard stop' (e.g. as in a book, end of the chapter, end of a book).

Also, even if parents are concerned and limit their own child's mobile use at school, it makes them a target so not really viable. It has to be a whole-school policy.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 3:17 pm 
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There's certainly cause for concern on mental health grounds imo, for all kinds of reasons. However, people under 20 manage their lives in radically different ways to even the most technologically advanced millennial, never mind pre-millennial, and trying to ban things we don't understand is also not a constructive or healthy response.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:51 pm 
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So, why is it that we, as parents, don't let our children manage other aspects of their (young lives) independently then? I don't think any of us would be particularly happy about sweets, cigarettes etc being freely available at school (or at home) for kids to 'self regulate'.

When I grew up, lots of kids had gaming consoles (Game Boy - showing my age here!;)) but these were not allowed during school hours. In all other respects of children's' lives, parents are expected to oversee and teach children how to interact: with other children, making sure homework is done (at least in primary), manners etc but, for some reason, mobiles phones (because it's 'technology') gets a free rein.

I don't think there is a coincidence that increased levels of mental health problems, e.g. anxiety, insomnia, suicides coincide with the (introduction and) increase of smart phones.

In my humble opinion.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:12 pm 
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turnip08 wrote:
I don't think any of us would be particularly happy about sweets, cigarettes etc being freely available at school (or at home) for kids to 'self regulate'.


I kind of feel I have to put me penn'orth in... firstly, you can't equate sweets with cigarettes. Secondly, my High School installed a KitKat dispenser (I hated the idea because in my teen years I believed schools should be free of advertising and it was a new concept). I still enjoyed using it at breaktimes though and we were all able to self-regulate; I don't remember anyone putting on huge amounts of weight because they bought themselves a treat during the day. Decades later we all still reminisce about that wonderful wooden box :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:22 pm 
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Ha ha, well at my school there were no such things. Of course, during secondary you can wander and go to local shops...cigarettes, well is that because there is an age limit? If so, I think there should be an age limit on on smart phones (some experts suggest above 13, if not 15) as they're hugely addictive. In reality my son has a smart phone which he loves using and we do try to limit at home - certainly no devices upstairs and in bedrooms (applies to adults too!) and we all try to leave mobiles plugged in a charger in a central location. Must say, it is starting to pay off....slowly.... and kids sometimes call me 'unsociable' if I'm on my phone - busted!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:50 pm 
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DD’s school have a policy allowing mobiles at school as long as they’re switched off in class. Occasionally they are used for research or as a recording device eg in lab work. DD has been able to use her phone to photograph the board when she can’t take notes fast enough (SEN issues). She seems to type very quickly on her phone and often prefers to write and email from her phone rather than use her laptop. Homework is now monitored through a phone app which seems to really work for DD.

The class WhatsApp group has proven invaluable for solving problems.

We delayed getting DD a mobile until year 7, and tried a simple pay as you go at first. We almost regret the decision to avoid phones at primary. In year 6 most classmates had phones and DD was left out of class decisions as a result. It was very isolating. And the PAYG phone didn’t last long.

DD uses her phone a lot but does self regulate. She has chosen to avoid most social media, and doesn’t use her phone at bedtime. Often when she is on her phone she is using a drawing app. Her digital art skills have come along nicely as she sketches to relax.

Ultimately, I think the phone does her more good than bad and, given her SEN, I would be very annoyed if she was banned from using it.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:37 pm 
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Exactly so. Banning a child from using a mobile phone, or trying to dictate how they use it, is effectively the same as preventing them learning to read or not teaching them to speak. It's how children and teenagers interact.


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