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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 6:27 pm 
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Well level 3 writing is not unknown nor is level 3 maths and quite a few 4c - but that was the old Bucks 11+.


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:09 pm 
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Sorry - should have clarified I was referring to my county, Warks!


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 8:51 pm 
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I don’t think we should necessarily be surprised by the odd level 3 slipping into the Grammar school. I think it would be highly unusual for a child performing across the board at that level to get in but there are certainly children whose talents are one-sided or who have specific learning difficulties which may affect their performance in one particular test or area despite their overall intelligence. In Lincolnshire as the 11+ score is an aggregate score over Verbal and Non-Verbal Reasoning tests, it is possible for a high score in one to compensate for a low score in the other.

A few years ago I had occasion to ask for the percentage of students entering one of the Grammar Schools who had achieved Level 5 in both English and Maths at KS2. I was surprised at the time that the numbers were as low as they were: 2010 intake (the highest percentage in the 3 years supplied) was 62%.


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 9:31 pm 
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In addition to Alex's comments, we must remember that what happens in primary school is not necessarily commensurate with a child's ability/potential and I am totally talking from experience here.


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 10:03 pm 
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Alex wrote:
I don’t think we should necessarily be surprised by the odd level 3 slipping into the Grammar school. I think it would be highly unusual for a child performing across the board at that level to get in

A few years ago I had occasion to ask for the percentage of students entering one of the Grammar Schools who had achieved Level 5 in both English and Maths at KS2. I was surprised at the time that the numbers were as low as they were: 2010 intake (the highest percentage in the 3 years supplied) was 62%.


I agree I haven't known a pupil performing at level 3 across the board gain a place at GS. And the % achieving level 5 in both maths and English is not a surprise to me at all. Also you need to remember that a child can get level 4 in English, but be a level 3 writer - as my DS was. But the good news is he received excellent support at GS and went on to get the same grade in Eng Lang as his siblings, who achieved level 5 and level 4 for writing.

And Kenyancowgirl you are correct - huge amount of 11+ tutoring going on from an early age and many parents don't do any revision for SATs.


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