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 Post subject: kent test and cat scores
PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:42 pm 
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Hello
Sorry if this post sounds silly. However, here we go:

Is a mark of 107 in the Kent Test the same as 107 in year 5 CAT Tests?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:04 am 
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No, Cognitive Ability Tests are specific tests used to measure CAt which is deemed to be mainly fixed. 11+ tests are commissioned by LEAs for entrance to the grammar schools. They measure different things/in different ways.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:45 am 
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Just to add to what KCG has already said. CAT scores consist of the full ability band of pupils nationally. The selective tests are usually based on the cohort sitting the test where many lower ability children will have dropped out. So the scores are not interchangeable. CAT scores will give you an idea of where they fit in the general population.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:09 am 
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Thank you for your replies, really helpful.

Another question:

Is there a certain mean CAT score needed/ or given as an indicator to sit the 11+

I have seen a previous answer for this, but do not know if it changes every year.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:21 am 
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There's no direct correlation. A friend who's a Head said that he has generally found that a CAT score of 120 and above is usually a fairly good indication that a student is a good candidate for the Kent Test; but of course anyone can have a bad day (or indeed a good day).


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:46 am 
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Thank you for your reply, again so helpful. Would that be the MEAN score of 120?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:52 am 
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Our primary school uses a mean of 120 on the Y5 CATs to decide if the child is a good candidate for the Kent Test; I believe this is quite high and really means 'is a good candidate for Headteacher Appeal'.

A mean score of 110 on the Y5 CATs would put the child in the 75% percentile, ie top 25%, and therefore approximately the right level for a Kent Test pass. However, as has been pointed out already, the CATs and the 11+ are quite different exams so a child who is good at CATs style questions (reasoning) but is weaker in an area that the CATs don't test but the Kent Test does (English/ maths) could do well in the CATs and not in the 11+. It is worth noting that a child who is weak in reasoning will likely perform weakly in both tests as a low score in the Kent Test reasoning paper would not pass even if the maths and English scores were high.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:43 am 
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Thank you, it's really interesting to hear different views about these things. My child seems excellent at Non verbal reasoning (CAT, 130) but got 105 in quant and verbal, which is interesting.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:07 am 
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Is your child in year 5 now dolphin? If so then you have plenty of time for them to get extra practice in their weaker areas.


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Yes - and yes good idea. Will get started soon.
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